(HF)MALICE = Cheat0r

[APOLLO]

Tonight WildCard and I put a game up on Foggy's Small Room to have a 2v2. RECON joined up and (HF)MALICE. We start the game, and within no more than 7 or 8 minutes into the game, MALICE has a MD coming out of his MS. Card and I confronted him about it, and he said that it came out of a crate. We both knew this was bullshyt cause we saw it come out of the MS, and confronted him about it. Then he lied and said he had it docked.

LOL, RECON said he must have pulled it out of a hat Anyway, this guy is a major league cheater, and should be avoided at all costs. I request that he be banned from every game from now on. By the way, he had 2 ion frigs, and another MD, as seen in the following game end stats. Guess he got those out of a crate too

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Player Name: APOLLO(&S&L&S)
Player Race: R1
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Time Of Death : Still Alive
RU's Started With: 4000
RU's Collected : 5850
RU's Spent : 7127
RU's Given : 0
RU's Received : 0
RU's Injected : 0
RU's via Bounties: 0
RU's Generated: 0
Current RU's: 2723
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Total Damage Against Player 1: 3.3
Total Damage Against Player 2: 4900.2
Total Damage Against Player 3: 0.0

Total Acquired Ships: 55

Total Acquired Ships By Type:

LIGHT CORVETTE :10
SCOUT :35
MOTHERSHIP :1
RESEARCH SHIP :2
RESOURCE COLLECTOR :5
RESOURCE CONTROLLER :2
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Total Acquired Ships By Class:
MOTHERSHIP :1
CORVETTE :10
FIGHTER :35
RESOURCE :5
NON-COMBAT :4
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Total Kills: 10
SCOUT killed: 10
FIGHTER killed: 10
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Total Losses: 9
SCOUT lost: 9
FIGHTER lost: 9
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Player Name: WildCard&S&L&S
Player Race: R2
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Time Of Death : Still Alive
RU's Started With: 4000
RU's Collected : 5850
RU's Spent : 5918
RU's Given : 0
RU's Received : 0
RU's Injected : 0
RU's via Bounties: 0
RU's Generated: 0
Current RU's: 3932
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Total Damage Against Player 0: 30.4
Total Damage Against Player 2: 3265.4
Total Damage Against Player 3: 0.0

Total Acquired Ships: 48

Total Acquired Ships By Type:

SCOUT :38
MOTHERSHIP :1
RESEARCH SHIP :3
RESOURCE COLLECTOR :5
RESOURCE CONTROLLER :1
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Total Acquired Ships By Class:
MOTHERSHIP :1
FIGHTER :38
RESOURCE :5
NON-COMBAT :4
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Total Kills: 17
SCOUT killed: 17
FIGHTER killed: 17
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Total Losses: 8
SCOUT lost: 8
FIGHTER lost: 8
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Player Name: RECON*&S&L&S
Player Race: R2
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Time Of Death : Still Alive
RU's Started With: 4000
RU's Collected : 3250
RU's Spent : 5554
RU's Given : 0
RU's Received : 0
RU's Injected : 0
RU's via Bounties: 0
RU's Generated: 0
Current RU's: 1696
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Total Damage Against Player 0: 252.3
Total Damage Against Player 1: 682.6
Total Damage Against Player 3: 0.0

Total Acquired Ships: 53

Total Acquired Ships By Type:

SUPPORT FRIGATE :2
SCOUT :39
MOTHERSHIP :1
PROBE :4
RESEARCH SHIP :2
RESOURCE COLLECTOR :4
RESOURCE CONTROLLER :1
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Total Acquired Ships By Class:
MOTHERSHIP :1
FRIGATE :2
FIGHTER :39
RESOURCE :4
NON-COMBAT :7
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Total Kills: 3
SCOUT killed: 3
FIGHTER killed: 3
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Total Losses: 27
SCOUT lost: 27
FIGHTER lost: 27
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Player Name: (HF)MALICE
Player Race: R2
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Time Of Death : Still Alive
RU's Started With: 4000
RU's Collected : 2600
RU's Spent : 5353
RU's Given : 0
RU's Received : 0
RU's Injected : 0
RU's via Bounties: 0
RU's Generated: 0
Current RU's: 1247
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Total Damage Against Player 0: 12494.3
Total Damage Against Player 1: 549.4
Total Damage Against Player 2: 0.0

Total Acquired Ships: 23

Total Acquired Ships By Type:

ION CANNON FRIGATE :2
SCOUT :15
MISSILE DESTROYER :2
MOTHERSHIP :1
RESEARCH SHIP :1
RESOURCE COLLECTOR :2
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Total Acquired Ships By Class:
MOTHERSHIP :1
DESTROYER :2
FRIGATE :2
FIGHTER :15
RESOURCE :2
NON-COMBAT :1
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Total Kills: 10
SCOUT killed: 10
FIGHTER killed: 10
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Total Losses: 0
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[reki]

wow, thats some messed up stats..

2 MDs & 2 ions at the 35 built scout mark, & all with only one research.

only possibility is crates, but if you saw it coming out of his ms, then there aint much chance of that. the lack of a detect is concerning... maybe when you probed you saw him retiring one of them? regardless, the chance of getting two MDs in a row out of two crates are pretty damn small.

edit - actually, scrap that.. if he had retired it, there would be a bad RU detection in the stats, like always.

nope - definite cheating by my reckoning.

[Lex SLS]

Like i said before Crusty played this guy on talas and he did the same thing...

I think Crusty has a rec of that game but im not sure anyways check www.hscweb.com and take a look at their war room they obviously have had some encounters with HF aswell...

[Kushan]

weird =\ this should have brought up a cheat detect..... somehow he must have found a loophole in the game files....

[MagpieFL]

banning him will force him to change his name. i predict a long series of smurf names appended to this thread.


nb remember my 2 carriers from crates?


DECUS ET TUTAMEN

[Division]

You can get some cool stuff out of crates, I got a heavy cruizer once.

apollo, Wildcard, do you guys remember a ffa game we had long ago. In that game, I had you both defeated, but Wildcard pulls a carrier from a crate as his MS explodes. Apollo also pulls stuff from a crate and with you both on defence, you manage to pull some teamwork and haul me down. ehehehe, that was a fun ass game. We should have done tons of them.

Also, it's hard to believe that a cheat detect didnt go off, but I would think it's possible that he has found a way to get around that. I guess he could have edited the files to send false information and perhaps avoid the detect from going off. I wish I could see a recording of that, but I know you didnt record.

In the mean time, I'm going to try to get some games with this guy and record them, I think we all should.

Divi.

[taiidan_loyalis]

good idea, division. i'll try and find him. maybe i can pshych him out or somthing... *ponders*... Nah! not me!

[Recce]

For one thing this guy is no strategy genius. If he took some time to read Relic he'd know that Missile Destroyers are worth shit. Do you concur Metho?

[skibb]

missile destroyers own k

[Alpha 1]

Lol,

I guess that all depends on when and where those MDs are, hehehe. If all the other guys have are fighters and corvettes in small numbers then 2 MDs are VERY good. Hehehe, well I'd say he changed the research dependancies or something like that. You need too many research items to get to MD for it to be a crate recieved research and 2 MDs is not gonna happen to the same person in a short game. But then crates were off so....

[Shamrock]

I know for a fact that it takes 10 minutes at the minimum to get a MD out with 4 research. Something I tested out on Subj. I haven't seen this guy but if I do see any HF. I will record the game. Long as we don't have to many master programers out there that would take the time to cheat at such a low profile game. We should be ok.